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this post was posted earlier, but have been in approval limbo for more than 2 days now, so I'll post it again in a slightly updated version with some of the previous questions answered
I had the pleasure of driving from Oslo - Trondheim Airport - Oslo these last couple of days with my P2 Performance. 1078,1km in total. (669,9 miles)
From Oslo to Trondheim I took the Dombås route, and Østerdalen back (for those Norwegians that know those routes)
The Dombås route have a fair bit of more high speed roads, 110km/h (68mph) an 90km/h (56 mph) speed limit and will reach around 1000m above sea level, while Østerdalen is 733m above sea level at maximum, and most of the way is 80 km/h (50 mph) speed limit.
I had a 12v cooling box connected all the time, a fair bit of luggage and a passenger both ways. Most of the time driving on autocruise on the exact speed limit (GPS). Normal driving all the time, no attempts to save anything as far as AC, or heat goes etc.
The trip also involved some steep climbs and gravel roads at times. I would say a god real world test of the power consumption.
The trip counter in the car say 1078,1 km, 20.2 kWh/100km, 15:06 hours, 74 km/h average speed. 12-18 degrees C.
I charged about 20kwh from a basic house plug, 3.6kWh boosting from 25% to 50% (stayed overnight) , the rest was in total 176,907 kW according to the apps.
I had 100% when I started and returned with about 25%.
Total time spent on roadside chargers was 211 minutes, but only 163 minutes was along the road. (attended a meeting in the city and charged on a nearby charger) Of that 90 minutes was spent for food brakes, perhaps 30 minutes on random stops for restroom etc, so actual wate time for charging was about 45 minutes in total. I charged more than I needed also so this could have been lower if I knew the car and the limits better. I brought a drone to fly around to kill time anyway, so it was mostly good times. I only used 50kW chargers. (no need for those expensive 150kW). Of the 5-6 timers I charged, I found 1 defect charger, and one charging really slow, but I just moved the car to the next one both times. I never saw 50kWh on those chargers anyway. I think you rarely see those numbers.
I did absolutely no route planing ahead, Just used the car. I started by telling it the end destination. It suggested I should add x amount of minutes at a charging station so I just followed the cars advice. As the trip went on and the plans changed a bit, I just repeated that process. Also if we agreed to take a break for some reason I would say "nearest charging point", and we just stopped there for a brake to top up the battery a bit when we had the chance for some minutes. I'm not sure this is the most cost effective solution, as you pay by the minute on some of those chargers and they use quite a bit of time to get up to peak charging power. Either way the total cost of this trip ended up 1/3 of the cost from previous trips with a diesel car so I don't mind.
I had not much clue what to expect and I had a steep learning curve here, so this is some of my thoughts:
I had the pleasure of driving from Oslo - Trondheim Airport - Oslo these last couple of days with my P2 Performance. 1078,1km in total. (669,9 miles)
From Oslo to Trondheim I took the Dombås route, and Østerdalen back (for those Norwegians that know those routes)
The Dombås route have a fair bit of more high speed roads, 110km/h (68mph) an 90km/h (56 mph) speed limit and will reach around 1000m above sea level, while Østerdalen is 733m above sea level at maximum, and most of the way is 80 km/h (50 mph) speed limit.
I had a 12v cooling box connected all the time, a fair bit of luggage and a passenger both ways. Most of the time driving on autocruise on the exact speed limit (GPS). Normal driving all the time, no attempts to save anything as far as AC, or heat goes etc.
The trip also involved some steep climbs and gravel roads at times. I would say a god real world test of the power consumption.
The trip counter in the car say 1078,1 km, 20.2 kWh/100km, 15:06 hours, 74 km/h average speed. 12-18 degrees C.
I charged about 20kwh from a basic house plug, 3.6kWh boosting from 25% to 50% (stayed overnight) , the rest was in total 176,907 kW according to the apps.
I had 100% when I started and returned with about 25%.
Total time spent on roadside chargers was 211 minutes, but only 163 minutes was along the road. (attended a meeting in the city and charged on a nearby charger) Of that 90 minutes was spent for food brakes, perhaps 30 minutes on random stops for restroom etc, so actual wate time for charging was about 45 minutes in total. I charged more than I needed also so this could have been lower if I knew the car and the limits better. I brought a drone to fly around to kill time anyway, so it was mostly good times. I only used 50kW chargers. (no need for those expensive 150kW). Of the 5-6 timers I charged, I found 1 defect charger, and one charging really slow, but I just moved the car to the next one both times. I never saw 50kWh on those chargers anyway. I think you rarely see those numbers.
I did absolutely no route planing ahead, Just used the car. I started by telling it the end destination. It suggested I should add x amount of minutes at a charging station so I just followed the cars advice. As the trip went on and the plans changed a bit, I just repeated that process. Also if we agreed to take a break for some reason I would say "nearest charging point", and we just stopped there for a brake to top up the battery a bit when we had the chance for some minutes. I'm not sure this is the most cost effective solution, as you pay by the minute on some of those chargers and they use quite a bit of time to get up to peak charging power. Either way the total cost of this trip ended up 1/3 of the cost from previous trips with a diesel car so I don't mind.
I had not much clue what to expect and I had a steep learning curve here, so this is some of my thoughts:
- 110km/t eats away the battery fast indeed. I knew that but I really see the difference myself now. Scared me a bit since the first leg of the trip is a fair bit of 110kmh speed limit.
- Finding a charger in these parts of Norway is really easy. It seems to me they are everywhere at least on these roads, and I charged 10 minutes here, 15 minutes there just because I randomly stopped for different reasons. I understand this is not representative or anything for many areas, but this was just so much easier than I thought it would be, and I didn’t really feel I spent much time charging at all.
- The seats in the P2 for longer trips like this, Excellent! I adjusted the support for lower back a bit and after that it was superb
- The infotainment system was a bit funky. 4G data connection was lost for the first hour resulting in a very weird and slow system. Suddenly it worked again. Also Google voice stopped working at a very critical point. I had to restart the system completely 2 times during the trip because of weird behaviour. This was in an area with good 4G coverage and both our phones had a good reception meanwhile.
- The Østerdalen route was a fun experience as there are a fair bit of sharps turns in 80kmh here. The cars just grabs the road and flows through like a train, just with less noise.
- Range does not bother me nearly as much after this trip. Also the estimated consumption from the Google system was very good, perhaps a bit on the conservative side
- The car performed fantastic and both me and my passenger enjoyed the ride very much and agreed this was the smoothest ride we had ever done on these roads.
- Even on some rough gravel roads the car didn't feel too firm with the performance pack. Worked surprisingly well.
- 3 times cargo trucks blinked with the lights to me, like indicating I should turn off the high beams. But I didn't use them, only the low. I am a bit puzzled by this.
. I imediately also missed the live traffic update because that was important at the time I didn't have connection. Radio and DAB radio still worked, and going back to playing Spotify from the phone via bluetooth also worked. Perhaps a factor was also that I havent really learned how to use the system offline, so it was a bit distracting because I went all "I don't know what buttons to push" here.
