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Hi Folks,

I thought I'd track the availability of apps for the Polestar 2. I'll keep this updated.

TitleFirst SeenVersionUpdated
ARD Audiothek02/08/201.0.1-automotive04/08/20
Audioburst - AAOS12/07/200.9.2702/06/20
Castbox12/07/201.0.0-20032044720/03/20
Google Assistant06/08/2011.9.8.release.auto30/06/20
Google Maps12/07/2010.45.20.E23/07/20
Google Play Books12/07/205.9.11_RC07.312683304.car_production26/05/20
KISS KUBE02/08/201.0.77.507/05/20
Libby12/07/201.1.117/06/20
Magic Radio02/08/201.0.77.514/05/20
myCANAL12/07/200.3.911/06/20
NPR One12/07/201.0.019/03/20
NRK Radio12/07/201.1-automotive15/06/20
Pocket Casts12/07/207.10.0a23/07/20
Radio France12/07/201.1.1-automotive12/05/20
radio.net12/07/20automotive-1.0.1.005/04/20
Radioline12/07/201.0.614/05/20
Spotify12/07/204.1.2.133423/07/20
Sveriges Radio12/07/20???02/07/20
UK Radioplayer02/08/201.0.96.007/05/20
YouTube Music12/07/203.70.20-CAR_RELEASE05/08/20

Apps that have been updated since I first discovered them, have the updated field in bold.

Apps that have been added to the system since it was first launched have the title in bold.

System component updates

DescriptionVersionDate
Android System WebView84.0.4147.12529/07/2020
 

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Thanks @stevelup !

Looks like you've poked around the Android Automotive API quite a bit.

One thread over, to meet the needs of the audiophiles, I wondered if an app could be made to download a music archive from cloud storage, store it locally, and play it on the media player in full uncompressed glory.

Does that seem doable to you?
 

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I have notified a colleague, project manager of our music app, about the upcoming Android Automotive OS.
Coders will adapt our Android Auto app to Automotive.
I'll let you know how easy/difficult it was.
 

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I wondered if an app could be made to download a music archive from cloud storage, store it locally, and play it on the media player in full uncompressed glory.
No technical reason why not, no. That said, I found the audio quality over Bluetooth from my phone to be exceptional. Not sure what codec is being used, but it's one of the better ones.

I remain unconvinced that anyone can actually tell the difference between lossless and a 320kbps MP3 or 256kbps AAC file in a car environment anyway!
 

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I remain unconvinced that anyone can actually tell the difference between lossless and a 320kbps MP3 or 256kbps AAC file in a car environment anyway!
I agree with you and will let the audiophiles in the forum take it up to correct us :)

Though I do see a use case in case we're going out for a long drive off-the-grid or otherwise with spotty cell signal, would be great to pre-download a set of music without having to use our phones as intermediaries.
 

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It's not just an audio quality reason. I want to be able to start playing my music with my hands on the wheel (via google assistant or steering wheel controls).
If I have to resort to play files on my phone over bluetooth, i'll have to pick my phone to make a selection. I hate that.
 

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Hi Folks,

I thought I'd track the availability of apps for the Polestar 2. I'll keep this updated.

TitleFirst SeenVersionUpdated
ARD Audiothek02/08/201.0.1-automotive04/08/20
Audioburst - AAOS12/07/200.9.2702/06/20
Castbox12/07/201.0.0-20032044720/03/20
Google Assistant06/08/2011.9.8.release.auto30/06/20
Google Maps12/07/2010.45.20.E23/07/20
Google Play Books12/07/205.9.11_RC07.312683304.car_production26/05/20
KISS KUBE02/08/201.0.77.507/05/20
Libby12/07/201.1.117/06/20
Magic Radio02/08/201.0.77.514/05/20
myCANAL12/07/200.3.911/06/20
NPR One12/07/201.0.019/03/20
NRK Radio12/07/201.1-automotive15/06/20
Pocket Casts12/07/207.10.0a23/07/20
Radio France12/07/201.1.1-automotive12/05/20
radio.net12/07/20automotive-1.0.1.005/04/20
Radioline12/07/201.0.614/05/20
Spotify12/07/204.1.2.133423/07/20
Sveriges Radio12/07/20???02/07/20
UK Radioplayer02/08/201.0.96.007/05/20
YouTube Music12/07/203.70.20-CAR_RELEASE05/08/20

Apps that have been updated since I first discovered them, have the updated field in bold.

Apps that have been added to the system since it was first launched have the title in bold.

System component updates

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Android System WebView84.0.4147.12529/07/2020
Hi,
Is this list an estimate or is it practically confirmed so that I can upload the APPs once I am sitting in my Polestar (hopefully ) in about 2 or 3 weeks?
 

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It's live - from the emulator. I check it every few days and keep it updated.

I can't think of any reason why it would be different in the actual car - it's the same Play store.
 

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It is a mix of APPs in different languages. It looks like a list of everything available up to know. With the open source technology we can expect thausands of APPs in a while. Then we will have the burdon of finding the right one :) ... better than anything else in the market.
 

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I've gotten use to Waze over the last couple of years. 'Hope that's one that finds its way to the car.
 

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I've gotten use to Waze over the last couple of years. 'Hope that's one that finds its way to the car.
What would be fantastic is if we can have Waze on the gauge cluster display some day, with the report features on the touch screen.

ETA: After hearing these comments, it sounds like it may not be possible, or at least not without some collaboration with the OEM. One can dream.
 

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What would be fantastic is if we can have Waze on the gauge cluster display some day, with the report features on the touch screen.

ETA: After hearing these comments, it sounds like it may not be possible, or at least not without some collaboration with the OEM. One can dream.
1. Doesn't Google own Waze? Why do they keep Google Maps and Waze separated?

2. I'm just glad we're getting a driver display. I mean, I know it's totally unnecessary yesteryear technology that I'm just too old (I'm not even 40 yet) and close/little-minded to understand that I really don't need one. But I'm glad a dash display (+ physical controls for wipers, mechanical door handles, etc) is included nonetheless.
 

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1. Doesn't Google own Waze? Why do they keep Google Maps and Waze separated?

2. I'm just glad we're getting a driver display. I mean, I know it's totally unnecessary yesteryear technology that I'm just too old (I'm not even 40 yet) and close/little-minded to understand that I really don't need one. But I'm glad a dash display (+ physical controls for wipers, mechanical door handles, etc) is included nonetheless.
They didn't originally own Waze, but they did acquire it and have since brought some of its features into Google maps. My guess is the apps remain separate as they target different audiences. It would be fantastic to have Waze in the gauge cluster, but I'm excited enough just to have a fully OEM integrated Android OS on the dash.

Coming from the Model 3, I haven't missed the driver display too much. I'd still rather have it, if only to save the real estate on the main screen, plus the more tech toys the better! Big yes to the door handles and wiper controls, though. I'm sick of explaining the doors to people and the lack of a proper wiper control is especially dangerous.
 

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Waze does not yet support EVs (no electric "fuel" choice or basic range or charge point support), but I did read Google had road-mapped it for Automotive so it will appear eventually I'm sure. I would assume (like my current car) that the cluster navigation view would simply stop plotting a route and you'd need to look at the centre console for navigation cues (in addition to audio). There are others like Sygic who may actually get there first and already offer better EV support and navigation tools. Android Automotive supports APIs that apps can use to read vehicle status inc battery charge etc so no reason why (over time) we won't see a broad choice of navigation options that offer similar to what Google Maps already does. The only real issue we have as early adopters is so few cars around currently to warrant most developers investing in developing for it, unfortunately, unless Google incentivises them to do so (which no doubt they did for Spotify).

NB. CarPlay also has an instrument cluster (HUD) support even if no one has yet taken it up, so that would be awesome if they added that as another market first to generate more PR etc.
 

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No technical reason why not, no. That said, I found the audio quality over Bluetooth from my phone to be exceptional. Not sure what codec is being used, but it's one of the better ones.

I remain unconvinced that anyone can actually tell the difference between lossless and a 320kbps MP3 or 256kbps AAC file in a car environment anyway!
Agree completely that a car environment is a poor place to evaluate fidelity. Many people just want louder or more bass as those are things that easily become apparent. XM is another story though. They run at no more than 64 kbps and I find even FM to be far superior in a moving car.
 

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