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We have a Volvo XC40 P8 Recharge which has the same Google AAOS — would this app work there? I’m not sure if my wife would even care hahaha— but I’m tempted to install it on her car. :p
Yes, it should work the same on Polestar and Volvo cars. I've tested it on the XC40-emulator, too, but it is not optimized for the UI. Volvo uses a lower resolution, so everything is a bit crammed. Renault Megane E-Tech should work too, but there is no way to test that for me. I can't make any predictions how the app would work on cars with ICEs though.
 

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Track #5 is open thanks to user GuidoM from the german forum.

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Track #5 is open thanks to user GuidoM from the german forum.

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Thanks for that! This new track is also promoted in the Dutch/Belgian FB group, so GuidoM might see some signups from there… 😉
 

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What if google discovers the many branches?
Will there be any consequences for developers and users?
Actually the test system is not meant to be like this......
I doubt that there would be consequences. The whole idea of internal testing is that Google doesn't screen those apps. Many people are making AAOS versions of open source projects such as games (which are not yet available in the official AAOS list of apps), which also contain just a new applicationID and no fundamental changes.
Making a project big with many test tracks just adds credibility to the project, because so many people are willing to contribute, either by building their own copy and setting up their own test track, or by acting as beta user.
I read that Polestar is already aware of this application and might be interested. It's a win-win for them to have such an extensive open source initiative to start from. It would be counter-productive to act upon parallel test tracks.
On a sidenote: the numbers of testers are actually smaller than the "theoretical" ones. E.g. on track #4, 115 people subscribed, but only 66 of those are currently actually using/testing the app. I assume all tracks have similar numbers.
 

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I read that Polestar is already aware of this application and might be interested. It's a win-win for them to have such an extensive open source initiative to start from. It would be counter-productive to act upon parallel test tracks.
This is probably the best tested app for AAOS ;)
 

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What if google discovers the many branches?
Will there be any consequences for developers and users?
Actually the test system is not meant to be like this......
I have thought about this, too. Your concern is the reason why I do not offer multiple test tracks myself. I only have one track I made accessible to the public and one for myself and a few selected testers to try out very experimental features.

Since all the other tracks were created by different people I am not associated with I don't think this will be a problem. I have not found any information about other people not being allowed to use and distribute the software I allowed them to in a way they see fit. Though this might still be a gray area and if someone from Google or Polestar aproaches me about this I ofcourse would approach the other track maintainers and ask them to no longer distribute the app. But I really hope this does not happen. My favourite outcome would be to be allowed to publish the app via Polestar directly, just like Vivaldi or ABRP.
 

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Super interesting app! As a developer I'm always interested in getting data out of my car. :) Some questions:
  • Can the app run in the background, or does it need to be active to be able to collect all of the data for the historic data on the graphs?
  • Does/can it sync the data in the cloud? This would enable scenarios like being able to see your car stats in for example Home Assistant. If not (yet), I'd love to help build this.

Thanks!
 

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Can the app run in the background, or does it need to be active to be able to collect all of the data for the historic data on the graphs?
The App uses a "foreground service" for data collection. This ensures that the service does not get killed by the OS while the UI is in the backgroud. This was a major concern in the first weeks, but works very stable now.

Does/can it sync the data in the cloud? This would enable scenarios like being able to see your car stats in for example Home Assistant. If not (yet), I'd love to help build this.
Currently it does not. I've already looked into using the Google API for Mail/Drive. This however requires a review of the app done by Google. Without that the API access is limited to 100 testers and every track would have to setup their own API access, which isn't as straight forward as I hoped. For now I'm not looking into this further until the app may be released publicly. Would just be too much effort for little use IMHO.

There have been ideas of using MQTT (MQTT-Broker-Connection by rdu · Pull Request #36 · Ixam97/CarStatsViewer) but it's not implemented yet (I have to ask if the contributor is still interested of adding this, a merge wasn't so easy because quite a lot changed under the hood at that time).

Currently I'm using a simple SMTP implementation in my internal dev build to send log files for debugging. For now im planing to expand this so anyone canenter own mail credentials and send the data to themselves.

Also I have not made any efforts to convert the json format of the trip data to a csv for import in Excel.
 

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Track #5 is open thanks to user GuidoM from the german forum.

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Hi.
When will you release track 6
 

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This morning I did my first test of CSV regarding the fast charging graph. You see the result below. Nice to see the charging behavior with such detail!
(FYI: I just drove for 10 minutes towards the fast charger with temperatures around 5 C, so too short a drive for the battery to be properly preheated; hence the rather slowish charging…)


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During charging, the instrument cluster and the CSV app showed different power levels. I assume that the instrument cluster shows the power coming in at the car’s “entry point”, whereas the app shows the power actually going into the battery pack, after part of it being used for the heating, A/C, … But interesting to see those differences.

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Similar differences in total charging amount, between the app and the charging station (compare this to the 17.7 kWh in the app, in the first screenshot) :

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During charging, the instrument cluster and the CSV app showed different power levels. I assume that the instrument cluster shows the power coming in at the car’s “entry point”, whereas the app shows the power actually going into the battery pack, after part of it being used for the heating, A/C, …
Correct.
Similar differences in total charging amount, between the app and the charging station
Same here.
 

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This morning I did my first test of CSV regarding the fast charging graph. You see the result below. Nice to see the charging behavior with such detail!
(FYI: I just drove for 10 minutes towards the fast charger with temperatures around 5 C, so too short a drive for the battery to be properly preheated; hence the rather slowish charging…)


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During charging, the instrument cluster and the CSV app showed different power levels. I assume that the instrument cluster shows the power coming in at the car’s “entry point”, whereas the app shows the power actually going into the battery pack, after part of it being used for the heating, A/C, … But interesting to see those differences.

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Similar differences in total charging amount, between the app and the charging station (compare this to the 17.7 kWh in the app, in the first screenshot) :

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This matches with my own experience on DC charging. Very interesting is the sawtooth pattern. My guess is that the jumps down are the adjustments the BMS makes according to the SoC and the smooth rising is the deminishing limit due to low cell temperatures. 🤔
 
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