I downloaded radio.net for my AM station, but I can't make it update location..... its locked into Atlanta, anyone else have that problem?
No AM radio
Anyone notice there is no AM radio?
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Very few cars now days have am radio, including Tesla. Our ioniq 5 does have it but the reception SUCKS. I could easily do without am radio, but my wife likes it for the talk shows which feature traffic reports and talking about current events. She doesn't even use th4 native am radio in the ioniq because the reception SUCKS that badly. She streams it thru apple carplayAnyone notice there is no AM radio?
Not in the US. We use HD Radio, not DAB. Previous Volvos had HD Radio but that also doesn’t exist in the AAOS Volvos/Polestars so far.Besides cool digital radio (also supports emergency systems)
Download the radio apps, but I can't get the location to update. Location permission granted, but no dice.Not in the US. We use HD Radio, not DAB. Previous Volvos had HD Radio but that also doesn’t exist in the AAOS Volvos/Polestars so far.
HD Radio supports CAP-EAS to my knowledge, as does Sirius, and even online stream radio stations do. Are we thinking of different emergency systems?Not in the US. We use HD Radio, not DAB. Previous Volvos had HD Radio but that also doesn’t exist in the AAOS Volvos/Polestars so far.
Polestar 2 does not support HD Radio. We do not have digital radio in Polestar 2 in the US was my point.HD Radio supports CAP-EAS to my knowledge, as does Sirius, and even online stream radio stations do. Are we thinking of different emergency systems?
Isn't siriusxm digital as well? It also support CAP-EAS messages. Why are you limiting this to one narrow definition of just HD Radio? And further more, you also have access to streaming services which are also digital and also provide the messages.Polestar 2 does not support HD Radio. We do not have digital radio in Polestar 2 in the US was my point.
I responded very specifically to your mention of “digital radio” because I wanted to point out that we do not, in fact, have that in this car in this country.Isn't siriusxm digital as well? It also support CAP-EAS messages. Why are you limiting this to one narrow definition of just HD Radio? And further more, you also have access to streaming services which are also digital and also provide the messages.
No one’s debating that SiriusXM exists and supports emergency messages. However, it’s crap quality barely better than FM and I’d have to pay for it. I’ve also not seen national parks or mountain areas broadcasting traffic/weather on Sirius. Maybe it exists but I’ve only really seen radio.
Yes internet streaming is great (and I wish the SiriusXM app would use it when available!). But the US is a big place and has a lot of areas where folks like me like to drive that do not have cellular service. In those areas we rely on things like.. radio for getting traffic and emergency messages. That’s how this thread started and therefore is why we’re “limiting it”. Yes I might break down and pay for SiriusXM eventually but it makes me pretty grumbly that I’ve had a backwards step to a car that does not support digital radio for those situations.
Without AM radio, at least HD Radio provided a number of additional channels on the FM bands.
I really don't get you; all the services I mentioned provide broadcasting of radio and do so digitally, and they all are compliant with the emergency message protocols. Yet somehow you are arguing against it.
It does support digital radio, and it does support emergency alerts.
It does support digital radio, and it does support emergency alerts.
By “radio” I was referring to things broadcast locally over the air. Like, on the side of the road “tune in for traffic/weather information”. We don’t have digital/contemporary version of that. A lot of those don’t rise to the level of full EAS that’d get re-broadcast on SiriusXM (as far as I know!).
You’re technically correct that SiriusXM is digital satellite radio and therefore the car has that kind of “digital radio”. That’s not really how I’d use the term but sure.
I know, americans are weird, but this isn’t just me so I’m trying to explain why we’re wanting this.
You’re technically correct that SiriusXM is digital satellite radio and therefore the car has that kind of “digital radio”. That’s not really how I’d use the term but sure.
I know, americans are weird, but this isn’t just me so I’m trying to explain why we’re wanting this.
I am guessing that in the Netherlands you may not have the small radius informational broadcasts? For example, at our airport we have a low frequency AM channel that you can tune into when near the airport to get current local airport information. At times, for severe traffic issues they may also temporarily install a small radius transmitter for information.I really don't get you; all the services I mentioned provide broadcasting of radio and do so digitally, and they all are compliant with the emergency message protocols. Yet somehow you are arguing against it.
It does support digital radio, and it does support emergency alerts.
I too miss my HD FM channels. Most of them are secondary channels and have a much lower commercial to content ratio. So much more enjoyable to listen to.
"Hey Siri, play AM 680"
All AM and FM channels work through Apple Music which I connect to the car with BT. I actually prefer network based AM radio versus over the air. Better quality.
All AM and FM channels work through Apple Music which I connect to the car with BT. I actually prefer network based AM radio versus over the air. Better quality.
I am guessing this would still not get the very localized info signals that I mentioned. But thanks. I had not tried that."Hey Siri, play AM 680"
All AM and FM channels work through Apple Music which I connect to the car with BT. I actually prefer network based AM radio versus over the air. Better quality.
NYT: In a Future Filled With Electric Cars, AM Radio May Be Left Behind
Carmakers say that electric vehicles generate more electromagnetic interference than gas-powered cars, which can disrupt the reception of AM signals and cause static, noise and a high-frequency hum. (FM signals are more resistant to such interference.)
Even though some AM stations have translators that send duplicate broadcasts over the FM airwaves, AM signals travel farther and reach more people. AM stations can also be less expensive than FM stations to operate, allowing some to offer programming geared toward specific religious, cultural or other communities.
Brian Winnekins, the owner of WRDN in Durand, Wis., which has seven hours of farm-related programming available every weekday on AM and FM, said he has been urging listeners to tell carmakers not to drop AM, noting that it can reach farmers in remote areas.
In a letter to 20 car manufacturers published on Dec. 1, Senator Edward J. Markey, Democrat of Massachusetts, requested that they keep AM radio in electric vehicles, describing it as an issue of public safety.
“Despite innovations such as the smartphone and social media, AM/FM broadcast radio remains the most dependable, cost-free, and accessible communication mechanism for public officials to communicate with the public during times of emergency,” Mr. Markey wrote. “As a result, any phaseout of broadcast AM radio could pose a significant communication problem during emergencies.”
Many AM broadcasters say their stations’ news reports are the quickest way for drivers to find out about tornadoes, flash floods and other severe weather. Diane Newman, operations and brand manager at WWL in New Orleans, said that during Hurricane Katrina and other natural disasters, the station carried vital information about rescue and recovery efforts.
Haven’t had AM radio in any of my cars for a long time….that said, there are plenty of phone apps that will get you AM over the Internet.
Last I checked those apps don’t relay local-broadcast AM radio (see all the prior posts in this thread)… especially in areas of no cell signal in the sierra mountain regions where I need the local-broadcast AM radio warnings about road closures. 🤪Haven’t had AM radio in any of my cars for a long time….that said, there are plenty of phone apps that will get you AM over the Internet.
The spots where I most need AM radio are exactly the spots that don’t have cell signal. If I have cell signal I can check web pages too.
Literally ran into this issue last month when I was trying to get over to the eastern sierras and roads were being closed. In the hour between last time I had cell signal and when I reached the road gate, the road had been closed and I had to turn back another hour.
Longer-term I’m guessing parks and mountain regions will have to switch to FM? Even if they keep adding cell towers the terrain just doesn’t work well with it. Not sure.
Shorter-term I’m trying to figure out if I can get an AM radio for my iPhone or just Bluetooth. Can at least relay that via Bluetooth/CarPlay.
Install iheart radio app if it's not already installed and you can listen to AM stations probably from your state or across the nation. You can tag stations to be favorites and it's quite nice and free.Anyone notice there is no AM radio?
Doesn't Google maps show you traffic and road closures? It's about to be updated to include waze which will be even better.Last I checked those apps don’t relay local-broadcast AM radio (see all the prior posts in this thread)… especially in areas of no cell signal in the sierra mountain regions where I need the local-broadcast AM radio warnings about road closures. 🤪
The spots where I most need AM radio are exactly the spots that don’t have cell signal. If I have cell signal I can check web pages too.
Literally ran into this issue last month when I was trying to get over to the eastern sierras and roads were being closed. In the hour between last time I had cell signal and when I reached the road gate, the road had been closed and I had to turn back another hour.
Longer-term I’m guessing parks and mountain regions will have to switch to FM? Even if they keep adding cell towers the terrain just doesn’t work well with it. Not sure.
Shorter-term I’m trying to figure out if I can get an AM radio for my iPhone or just Bluetooth. Can at least relay that via Bluetooth/CarPlay.
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Problem is, that the substantial electric fields from around the car’s motors will seriously wipe an AM signal while driving.
At first, I was going to recommend you just get a decent travel radio given the nature of your needs. I have an Eton Elite Mini that’s “pocket small” for such needs - works well enough.Last I checked those apps don’t relay local-broadcast AM radio (see all the prior posts in this thread)… especially in areas of no cell signal in the sierra mountain regions where I need the local-broadcast AM radio warnings about road closures. 🤪
The spots where I most need AM radio are exactly the spots that don’t have cell signal. If I have cell signal I can check web pages too.
Literally ran into this issue last month when I was trying to get over to the eastern sierras and roads were being closed. In the hour between last time I had cell signal and when I reached the road gate, the road had been closed and I had to turn back another hour.
Longer-term I’m guessing parks and mountain regions will have to switch to FM? Even if they keep adding cell towers the terrain just doesn’t work well with it. Not sure.
Shorter-term I’m trying to figure out if I can get an AM radio for my iPhone or just Bluetooth. Can at least relay that via Bluetooth/CarPlay.
Problem is, that the substantial electric fields from around the car’s motors will seriously wipe an AM signal while driving.
where does it get that traffic and road closure data? 😜Doesn't Google maps show you traffic and road closures? It's about to be updated to include waze which will be even better.
Edit: To be crystal clear, even when Google Maps road closure data is accurate — it’s usually much-delayed over what you hear on AM radio — it’s coming… from a cell signal. Which I don’t have in large swaths of the sierras.
I’m not even talking about all that crazy of a route. I was heading east on 120 across Tioga Pass through Yosemite. But much of 120 past, I don’t know, Groveland, has basically no cell signal. I knew 4 and 108 had been closed, but a quick check of both Caltrans and NPS on my phone when I was in Groveland or wherever had shown 120 was still open (and I mean, of course Google Maps still showed it open). But an hour of driving w/o signal later it was not. I almost certainly could’ve learned that sooner on the radio had I had it. That’s all.
I have one of the Eton radios in my emergency kit. I actually haven’t tried operating it from inside the car, but I’d be curious to try. Ideally I’d get something I could operate while driving, of course, for more realtime updates. But maybe I could’ve occasionally stopped and checked that radio. Though I had a sense 120 might close soon, so I was honestly rushing trying to beat that storm and/or closure.At first, I was going to recommend you just get a decent travel radio given the nature of your needs. I have an Eton Elite Mini that’s “pocket small” for such needs - works well enough.
Problem is, that the substantial electric fields from around the car’s motors will seriously wipe an AM signal while driving.
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