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P2.9

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Adinic

Discussion Starter · 15 d ago

Good news everyone!

Software Updates 2.9

You can now switch between Pilot Assist and Adaptive Cruise Control with the left buttons on the steering wheel. More information on Pilot Assist and Adaptive Cruise Control is available in the Owner's Manual after installation.
New features in Apple CarPlay:
Apple Maps is now available in the center display.
"Play/Pause" and "Forward/Back" buttons are available in the Apple CarPlay panel.
The "Now Playing" information is available in the Apple CarPlay panel.
Call information is available in the Apple CarPlay panel, the Driver Display and the HUD (Head-up Display). Phone calls can be managed with the buttons on the steering wheel.
Added an option under Control Settings to fold the door mirrors when locking the vehicle. Your choice will be linked to the currently used profile.
Increased the stability of the infotainment system.
The user profile now correctly switches to the currently used key.
The radio channel is not changed when starting a new drive cycle.
Transmission optimization adjustments.

Most likely these changes will come to Polestar also.

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gadgeTT

· #141 · 6 d ago

jmack123 said:
I use a wireless adapter for CarPlay which is always plugged in - if you have Google Maps open, does it toggle back to that in the cluster? Or is it always CarPlay if the phone is connected to the wire irrespective of whether you are on Google Maps in the display?

From my limited use so far, if the dash display is set to show maps (versus the basic display without maps), then Google Maps is on the screen unless you have CarPlay connected via wire and are in navigation via Apple Maps. If CarPlay is via the dongle, then Google Maps is replaced with a black display where the map used to be. I haven't tried Waze or Google Maps running via CarPlay yet, though, to see if anything other than Apple Maps projects via CarPlay onto the dash screen. More experimentation is required ;-).

BTW, here is what it looks like with Apple Maps:

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jmack123

· #142 · 6 d ago

gadgeTT said:
From my limited use so far, if the dash display is set to show maps (versus the basic display without maps), then Google Maps is on the screen unless you have CarPlay connected via wire and are in navigation via Apple Maps. If CarPlay is via the dongle, then Google Maps is replaced with a black display where the map used to be. I haven't tried Waze or Google Maps running via CarPlay yet, though, to see if anything other than Apple Maps projects via CarPlay onto the dash screen. More experimentation is required ;-).

BTW, here is what it looks like with Apple Maps:
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That looks great! So to be clear, unless you are actively navigating via CarPlay, it will default to Google Maps correct? And by dongle, do you mean wireless dongle?

julianm

· #143 · 6 d ago

arijaycomet said:
@Eyeballs & @b3au – my Ford MME/GT had “arrows” that showed the directions on the driver cluster, but not map sharing/mirroring the way BMW does (per your video link 2 posts above) and the way the Volvo/Polestar does/will after v2.9 — so yeah to my knowledge I agree I think at the moment it is just BMW/Volvo/Polestar. Other cars do seem to share arrows/details across, but that seems to be “data sharing” no “screen sharing/mirroring” —

The “arrows” display that Mach-E and other vehicles display is part of metadata that can be sent — current phone call, current song playing, and album art. IIRC, this protocol dates back to iPod days (obviously without the nav bits), so is pretty different from the video-stream stuff of contemporary CarPlay. I think that explains why car companies that previously built wired iPod support have this at hand so readily. But there’s a bunch there that I’m presuming Polestar is now using in P2.9 to show info in the CarPlay tile when not fullscreen.

julianm

· #144 · 6 d ago

gadgeTT said:
From my limited use so far, if the dash display is set to show maps (versus the basic display without maps), then Google Maps is on the screen unless you have CarPlay connected via wire and are in navigation via Apple Maps. If CarPlay is via the dongle, then Google Maps is replaced with a black display where the map used to be. I haven't tried Waze or Google Maps running via CarPlay yet, though, to see if anything other than Apple Maps projects via CarPlay onto the dash screen. More experimentation is required ;-).

BTW, here is what it looks like with Apple Maps:

Could you start playing a song and then go back out to the Polestar home / tile view, with CarPlay as one of the tiles?

gadgeTT

· #145 · 6 d ago

jmack123 said:
That looks great! So to be clear, unless you are actively navigating via CarPlay, it will default to Google Maps correct? And by dongle, do you mean wireless dongle?

Yeah, that's what I've been seeing thus far. Yup - "dongle" means a wireless CarPlay adapter versus plugging in with a cord between the phone the car.

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Aggie57

· #146 · 6 d ago

Confirmed with a good mate who has a current i4 that on that car the CarPlay maps projection to the driver display works with wireless CarPlay.

I’m confused why the Polestar doesn’t do the same given once the dongle establishes the connection and emulates a directly connected device, surely the car then handles the projection irrespective of the dongle?

kkonstan

· #147 · 6 d ago

Aggie57 said:
Confirmed with a good mate who has a current i4 that on that car the CarPlay maps projection to the driver display works with wireless CarPlay.

I’m confused why the Polestar doesn’t do the same given once the dongle establishes the connection and emulates a directly connected device, surely the car then handles the projection irrespective of the dongle?

The dongle pretends to be a car to the phone, and a phone to the car, and acts like a proxy.

It doesn’t support a second video stream so there’s nothing the phone, or polestar, can do about this, because both are connecting to a device that doesn’t support that.

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stevelup

· #148 · 6 d ago

Aggie57 said:
I’m confused why the Polestar doesn’t do the same given once the dongle establishes the connection and emulates a directly connected device, surely the car then handles the projection irrespective of the dongle?

That would be down to the Chinese hackers that made the box to implement. Remember that box is just pretending to be a wired CarPlay client, and a wireless CarPlay host and passing the data between.

It is far from the same thing as an actual wireless CarPlay implementation.

Aggie57

· #149 · 5 d ago

kkonstan said:
The dongle pretends to be a car to the phone, and a phone to the car, and acts like a proxy.

It doesn’t support a second video stream so there’s nothing the phone, or polestar, can do about this, because both are connecting to a device that doesn’t support that.

stevelup said:
That would be down to the Chinese hackers that made the box to implement. Remember that box is just pretending to be a wired CarPlay client, and a wireless CarPlay host and passing the data between.

It is far from the same thing as an actual wireless CarPlay implementation.

So you're saying the drivers display uses a 2nd video stream from the phone to the car, rather than the CarPlay app on the car providing a rendition of the maps app? I'll ask the developers of the dongle about this as well, they've been very responsive to questions to date.

JHowells

· #150 · 5 d ago

Aggie57 said:
Confirmed with a good mate who has a current i4 that on that car the CarPlay maps projection to the driver display works with wireless CarPlay.

I’m confused why the Polestar doesn’t do the same given once the dongle establishes the connection and emulates a directly connected device, surely the car then handles the projection irrespective of the dongle?

You can also mix and match what CarPlay info to show on which screen in BMW with wireless CarPlay.. so you could have maps on one screen and music on another, or phone call info etc etc..

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kkonstan

· #151 · 5 d ago

Aggie57 said:
So you're saying the drivers display uses a 2nd video stream from the phone to the car, rather than the CarPlay app on the car providing a rendition of the maps app? I'll ask the developers of the dongle about this as well, they've been very responsive to questions to date.

The CarPlay app is just a CarPlay host - it will present the displays it supports (along with their characteristics like resolution etc) to the iPhone.

In this case, the dongle ignores the 2nd display, and presents itself to the phone as a car with one.

There’s no technical reason that I can think of that they couldn’t update the firmware to support additional displays, but my guess is most of the current cheap ones are barely fast one to handle one at 30fps so probably won’t do too well with two.

Aggie57

· #152 · 5 d ago

kkonstan said:
The CarPlay app is just a CarPlay host - it will present the displays it supports (along with their characteristics like resolution etc) to the iPhone.

In this case, the dongle ignores the 2nd display, and presents itself to the phone as a car with one.

There’s no technical reason that I can think of that they couldn’t update the firmware to support additional displays, but my guess is most of the current cheap ones are barely fast one to handle one at 30fps so probably won’t do too well with two.

Thanks; I'll see what they say and pass it on.

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kyledag500

· #153 · 5 d ago

gadgeTT said:
From my limited use so far, if the dash display is set to show maps (versus the basic display without maps), then Google Maps is on the screen unless you have CarPlay connected via wire and are in navigation via Apple Maps. If CarPlay is via the dongle, then Google Maps is replaced with a black display where the map used to be. I haven't tried Waze or Google Maps running via CarPlay yet, though, to see if anything other than Apple Maps projects via CarPlay onto the dash screen. More experimentation is required ;-).

BTW, here is what it looks like with Apple Maps:
View attachment 24018

Interesting that yours is missing the trip details in the
driver display. A guy on Reddit posted this (notice ETA/distance).

Have you figured out when/why it shows this? I’d use CarPlay + Apple Maps just for this if it was permanent…

my current best guess is when in park because he is and you’re not

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Caocao

· #154 · 5 d ago

As anybody in Canada received 2.9 by OTA yet?

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booruce

· #155 · 5 d ago

Caocao said:
As anybody in Canada received 2.9 by OTA yet?

NOO. Patiently waiting. I saw someone on Reddit got it but that’s because they bought the performance software upgrade. I was almost tempted to buy it just so I can get this OTA early lol

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Knucklehead

· #156 · 5 d ago

Aggie57 said:
So you're saying the drivers display uses a 2nd video stream from the phone to the car, rather than the CarPlay app on the car providing a rendition of the maps app? I'll ask the developers of the dongle about this as well, they've been very responsive to questions to date.

Good luck asking. I asked Carlinkit years ago about getting the direction arrows/street name on the driver display and nothing happened and that is far easier to implement. As far as I can tell all the dongle manufacturers are use the same core code (probably open source) and they all seem to work the same.

Aggie57

· #157 · 5 d ago

Knucklehead said:
Good luck asking. I asked Carlinkit years ago about getting the direction arrows/street name on the driver display and nothing happened and that is far easier to implement. As far as I can tell all the dongle manufacturers are use the same core code (probably open source) and they all seem to work the same.

My experience has been a little different, will see how I go.

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Haskens

· #158 · 4 d ago

Yes, but as part of the performance upgrade I think. I say I think because I purchased the upgrade almost two weeks ago, got the update on Tuesday but the performance app hasn’t updated as of yet.

Eyeballs

· #159 · 4 d ago

From Facebook Q and A:
OTA is coming next week.
Next version will be P2.10.
Not much else.

vc-10

· #160 · 4 d ago

My car last night was all lit up on the interior - the logo against the glass roof, and the ambient lighting on the dash and around the gear selector. I'm sure I read somewhere that the car does this when it's downloading an update?

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