Are you sure you engaged PA and didn't only have the Lane Keeping safety feature turned on? I've been using PA on local roads and highways almost daily in my '21 and found it quite good. It's not perfect by a long-shot, but the behavior you described sounds more like the lane keeping safety feature whereby it merely guides the car away from a lane marking if it wanders.

 

I have everything enabled that I can find. Can you confirm your setting in your Assist or am I missing something?

Thanks in advance.

I should have all the options.

 

I have everything enabled that I can find. Can you confirm your setting in your Assist or am I missing something?

Thanks in advance.


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I should have all the options.

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Did you activate the Pilot Assist (PA) with the the > button on the left side of the steering wheel?

 

I played with this only during a test drive, but it seemed to stay in the lane and steer itself around curves. It only got confused when the lane lines disappeared. I found this page in the manual… did you have the Pilot assist (hand on steering wheel) icon yellow as well?

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The Adaptive Cruise in the centre screen only switches between speed limiter, normal cruise and adaptive cruise.
With adaptive cruise selected in the centre console and cruise activated by pressing the centre button in the steering wheel left hand side controller you then need to activate pilot assist by pressing the right arrow beside that button. You will see the steering wheel symbol light up in yellow on the drivers display when pilot assist is active. Your description of the car’s behaviour sounds very like cruise is on , pilot is off and the lane keep assist is bouncing you between the lane markings (which is its intended purpose)

 

TonyJ I think you hit the nail on the head. That XC60 we rented did indeed have the steering wheel with the hand icon on the dash and I'm pretty sure I'm not seeing that on the P2 dash. I'll see if I can get that enabled by pressing that right button beside ACC.

Thanks and I'll report back here after I try that later today.

 

OP, I think PA sucks, too. I've tried it numerous times, and it's way too ping pongy.

 

If PA is activated, it works fine for me.

As expected, it sometimes gets confused when the marking lines on the road either disappear (or are faded), and on an exit ramps (sometimes will decide it wants to exit, rather than continue going straight). But this is pretty normal for many "self driving" systems that I have experienced.

The automatic acceleration and breaking, in traffic, work great..

 

The speed control is great, the direction control is barely mediocre

 

So, I saw a lot of similar complaints on the ID.4 forum… some folks reporting the lane keeping ping-ponged back and forth and others loved it. It turned out that VW originally had it so one button started ACC and they made you push a different button to activate the lane centering, which sounds similar to what Polestar does. VW eventually changed it via a software update so when you activate the ACC with the Set button it starts the lane centering at the same time, and those complaints have gone away. Maybe Polestar can simplify this in a future update…

 

Yep, pulled out of the neighborhood last night, enabled ACC and then pushed the small arrow button to the right and Pilot Assist started up and worked great for my short drive. Of note with the position of the steering wheel I couldn't even see those two illuminated indicators at the bottom of the dash. Thanks TonyJ for that first correct answer!

 

Please, please never have the Pilot assist tied to the ACC engaging both at the same time.
There are other locations on this planet than sunny California, and in bad weather, or winter (yes, there are these remote locations on the planet where there is snow on the roads for several months every year, and we still drive our cars every day), the pilot assist is an pilot assassin, figuring everything to be lane markings (when willing to engage), and tries to shoot you off to any nearby ditch or oncoming traffic. ACC still being useful, but pilot assassin not so much.

I have found the Pilot assist to be quite functional on sw. 2.10 and newer, before that swaying in the lane to the point of being useless.
Swapping to winter tires, the pilot assist is a bit more swaying, I'll accept that over dancing on ice on summer tires.

The ACC is acceptable, maybe a bit better on the latest sw, the cushion is to firm, when something with slightly more speed difference appears on the horizon, the car tries to stop there and match the speed to the car ahead, case lorry doing 85kmh, you doing 120kmh (as per speed limit), that's a dramatic braking awaiting you when it get's into range. The cushion should be softer, allowing the car to get closer before "bouncing back" if you do not overtake.
The ACC should also have a indicator before starting to decrease speed (not only the yellow car symbol that something is in visible range), in multi-lane scenarios where you are keeping the right lane and overtaking cars as they approach, the first sign to switch lane is when the car starts retarding, and that's annoying. Or you have to anticipate and switch lanes way ahead, hugging the left lane for no good reason blocking those going even faster.

Opted for the Pilot Lite package basically for these two features, I'm not completely disappointed but would seriously re-consider my choices and spend more time testing the features in real life if I was to by another car.

 

We picked up our P2 PPP about a month ago and I played around with the Pilot Assist functions and found them very lacking. While driving down the interstate I engage cruise control and loosely hold the steering wheel. The effect ranges from a lurking drunken correction as I approach a dotted line to a half assed correction as the car drives right into the other lane. I started to think that this is just a piss poor implementation similar to what Ive seen in Subaru rental cars in the past.

Then last week we were in Ireland and rented a Volvo XC60 with the Pilot Assist. This thing would smoothly self drive down the highway for miles with zero input from my hands and kept us squarely centered in the lane around all turns and curves. This tickled up a memory from the sales guy I bought the car from saying that he has done 90 mile drives with the Pilot Assist and little input.

So what are the rest of you seeing when using the Pilot Assist function on our P2?

You did not activate Pilot Assist. You would have seen the steering wheel icon light up if you had.

 

If they don't stay on auto there is an option in the main screen settings to remember

 

There is an option to turn the auto-wipers on for each drive by default (Rain Sensor Memory) but there are several year-old threads about those of us who decided to disable that and manually enable the auto wipers per drive instead. This is due to a less-than-optimal design whereby if the memory feature is enabled and you get in the car with a wet windshield, the car will do a wipe with the door still open and dump water all over you (LHD mostly). It's a relatively trivial effort to tap the auto-wiper button to start them when needed (and leave them on for the duration of that drive only).

Interestingly, I just re-read the user manual and there is no mention of the rain sensor memory setting any more. Instead, it states that the rain sensor remembers whether it was on or off the last time the car was on:

"The rain sensor is automatically on or off when the vehicle is started depending on which mode it was in when the vehicle was switched off."

I just confirmed in my '21 LE car with 2.11 that the "Rain Sensor Memory" setting is still there (and set to "Off" for me).

Slight update - The manual for my '21 still mentions the "Rain Sensor Memory" setting but from '22 and up, that setting must have been removed in favor of just making the Rain Sensor function "sticky" between drives.

For those of us with '21 models, the recommendation is leave the Rain Sensor Memory off. For everyone else, perhaps the best recommendation is to remember to turn it off at the end of each drive so you don't get wet on the next.

 

You were supposed to let him figure that out on his own 😂😂😂

 

So, you push the button on the stalk to start them… do they stay on after you turn the car off? Or do you need to push it each time?

They do stay activated if you turn off the car. But if you manually push the wiper stalk to intermittent or on, it turns off. I think so, but not 100% if you push down to swipe once they stay on. The same if you use the washer spray, they stay on.

EDIT: All mentioned in more detail above, didn't notice page 2!