Yes indeed. In every nonUS market the P*2 is essentially the same price as the TM3LR, but here it’s ~$7k more (with the federal incentive). Without the tariffs am guessing the starting price would be $7-8k less.It seems, from what I understand, that the tariff is rolled into our costs. Too bad. Instead of $60k, we'd be looking at sub-$50k.
I apologize in advance for writing this, but I can't resist... China's not paying the tariffs. We are.Yes indeed. In every nonUS market the P*2 is essentially the same price as the TM3LR, but here it’s ~$7k more (with the federal incentive). Without the tariffs am guessing the starting price would be $7-8k less.
Not trying getting political ... but it's same as Mexio will pay for the wall ... via Tariffs ... that the american's pay.I apologize in advance for writing this, but I can't resist... China's not paying the tariffs. We are.
I don't class it as political, whichever side of the fence you are on. It is a fact that if there is no deal then WTO tarriffs will come into play. As an aside, does anyone know who actually benefits from the payment of tarriffs? Is it the government receiving the export or the government exporting? To be honest I don't think anybody "wins". Free trade should be free trade.Just like a no brexit deal will mean WTO trade tarriff's, and the UK has 55% importing compared to the EU's 45% importing. So we import more from the EU than we export ... so it's the UK who will be worse off.
ps. I failed at not getting political.
My question answered. Thank you.Can we please leave politics out of this forum. I understand that tariffs have had an impact on the price of this car but that’s why in a Capitalist society you have the option of purchasing or not. I’ve just seen too many forums get derailed by political discussions.
That's fair. 'Glad to stay friends with everybody here, even if we disagree on politics. (We need more of that these days.)Can we please leave politics out of this forum. I understand that tariffs have had an impact on the price of this car but that’s why in a Capitalist society you have the option of purchasing or not. I’ve just seen too many forums get derailed by political discussions.
I understand what you're saying, but when I look at the UK and Germany prices (on their respective Polestar sites) and convert to USD, the price is essentially the same. It seems to me the US is paying the same as our European friends.Yes indeed. In every nonUS market the P*2 is essentially the same price as the TM3LR, but here it’s ~$7k more (with the federal incentive). Without the tariffs am guessing the starting price would be $7-8k less.
Who knows what they would do in a non tariffed world. Clearly, even with the tariffs, they are selling quite a number of P*2s here. But I suspect that without tariffs they would have set their prices based on the competitive ones from the model 3. Maybe they take a bit less profit margin here for greater market share. I mean, Tesla has been taking negative profit margins while trying to establish themselves. Why wouldn’t Polestar do something likewise while Uncle Geely writes the checks?I understand what you're saying, but when I look at the UK and Germany prices (on their respective Polestar sites) and convert to USD, the price is essentially the same. It seems to me the US is paying the same as our European friends.
Insert sarcastic statement here along the lines of "Gee. Who knew?"Or said more bluntly
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