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I went with the Chargepoint since the installer recommended it and my power company (Delmarva Power) indicated I would get a $300 rebate (it was pricey at $700) . After the install I contacted the power company and was told that offer was only for Maryland customers !! I've not had any problems with the charger and it charges at the rate it indicated it would (slow - which I assume are like most home chargers).
 
Another vote for the Juicebox. I've got the 32a. As system logic says: It just works.
As you can see I chose the NEMA 14-50 connection as opposed to the hardwire.
And here are a few screenshots of the app. Clean, functional, reliable, informative. Not sure what else you could need. Scheduling works well--stops when it should, starts when it should. Charges to the one %.
Here's a niggle: I'll set it to charge from say, 35% (based on what the car says) to 60%. There always seems to be a small discrepancy between what it thinks the car is starting with and what the car thinks it's starting with. Not ever more than about 4%, so it's not like life or death.
I'd buy it again.



Scratch that. I've just spent 1 1/2 hours trying desperately to make their NEW AND BETTER JUST FOR YOU app communicate with my EVSE. Utter and complete failure. Now I have a very expensive dumb charger.

Don't waste your time or money on Juice Box.
Yeah the new forced app change is a real pain
What a kick in the balls for no reason
 
I have two ClipperCreek EVSEs, a 60A hard-wired (48A Level 2 EVSE HCS-60 Hardwired | ClipperCreek) for my primary home and a portable 32A charger for our other home (32A Level 2 EVSE AmazingE FAST with NEMA 14-50 Plug). None of these are "smart" chargers. We had to have a separate panel put in our garage for the hard-wired EVSE and had an external 50A NEMA 14-50 outlet box for the portable one.

With both the chargers, we had been consistenly getting the specified charge rates (11.5KW for the hard-wired and about 7KW for the portable one). We had been using them through the summer and into the NE winter. While our garage is not heated, the hard-wired EVSE has had no issues with the variations in the temperature and the 25' cable is a boon when it comes to placing the car in the garage. There is no usable garage in our other house, so the car is parked in the driveway and is also charged there. In both the instances, the charging cable does not get stiff or unwieldy. Connection to the car has always been spot-on and diconnecting too was never an issue. When on the portable one, we leave the car on the charger overnight and start the climate timer in the morning to get the car ready for the drive to the slopes. No issues encountered so far. The hard-wired one is usually connected once in 10 days or so (depending on how much the car gets used), while the portable one is used every weekend. No wear and tear has been seen. Planning to have a weather-proof box set up outside to kinda convert the portable one to a more fixed instance.
ClipperCreek makes some of the best EVSEs you can buy. They are simple, no frills, but rock solid. I've had mine for 5 years now without so much as a hiccup. And they are built right here in the good 'ol US of A in the land of EVs, California.
 
Have been using the classic Grizzl-e for the last five months (40a on 50a circuit). This installation gives the option of reaching anywhere in garage and driveway. The cable from breaker panel is about 35 feet through the garage attic (6 gauge cable). I get all SOC info / control through the Polestar app (works great).

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Hi all!

Just picked up the 2023 P2 P+P today - very exciting first drive especially as a first-time EV owner :)
But now reality strikes and I need to figure out updating my home for EV charging. I live in the busy New Jersey area where public chargers (L2, L3 are almost non-existent) are very difficult to find. So home charging is essential (and to save costs).
But I don't have a garage and it will need to be installed on the side of my house, outdoors. Could you suggest a good dependable charger (non-chinese) that is safe for outdoor use during the extreme weather as well? Also how do we secure them so the charger is not "used" by others when no one is around (yeah - it's a problem!!)?

Thanks!
 
Hi all!

Just picked up the 2023 P2 P+P today - very exciting first drive especially as a first-time EV owner :)
But now reality strikes and I need to figure out updating my home for EV charging. I live in the busy New Jersey area where public chargers (L2, L3 are almost non-existent) are very difficult to find. So home charging is essential (and to save costs).
But I don't have a garage and it will need to be installed on the side of my house, outdoors. Could you suggest a good dependable charger (non-chinese) that is safe for outdoor use during the extreme weather as well? Also how do we secure them so the charger is not "used" by others when no one is around (yeah - it's a problem!!)?

Thanks!
Why specifically non-Chinese? Seems like your Chinese manufactured car might prefer otherwise?
 
Why specifically non-Chinese? Seems like your Chinese manufactured car might prefer otherwise?
Haha!
True - but assuming the Chinese manufacture of the car came with obsessive Swedish overseeing, which chargers may not have :) But I admit, though I would prefer US-made (proper reliable UL-listed etc.) I guess good quality and established Chinese made products should be OK...thank you!
 
Clipper Creek is one of the best US made chargers. They are not fancy, but are bulletproof and can handle the weather. They come with a lock for the handle. Regardless, if someone else plugs in, it will take a long time to steal enough juice to be worth it. Your installation should be on a dedicated circuit and you can throw the breaker if it's really an issue.
 
Thanks JRRF!
Yeah - I was considering the breaker approach but a lock on the handle should be enough :)
One more q regarding Clipper Creek: the local Electric Utility company, PSE&G is offering a credit to offset the cost of the charger and installation. But they must be Level 2 smart charger (ie capable of sending and receiving communications via Wi-Fi or a cellular network). Would you know if this charger is wifi-enabled?

Thank you again!
 
Thanks JRRF!
Yeah - I was considering the breaker approach but a lock on the handle should be enough :)
One more q regarding Clipper Creek: the local Electric Utility company, PSE&G is offering a credit to offset the cost of the charger and installation. But they must be Level 2 smart charger (ie capable of sending and receiving communications via Wi-Fi or a cellular network). Would you know if this charger is wifi-enabled?

Thank you again!
My utility has the same. My only contention is that the more electronics in the unit, the more things there are to break - particularly if the unit will sit outside. If you go that route you would almost certainly want to install it in a box.
 
Hi all!

Just picked up the 2023 P2 P+P today - very exciting first drive especially as a first-time EV owner :)
But now reality strikes and I need to figure out updating my home for EV charging. I live in the busy New Jersey area where public chargers (L2, L3 are almost non-existent) are very difficult to find. So home charging is essential (and to save costs).
But I don't have a garage and it will need to be installed on the side of my house, outdoors. Could you suggest a good dependable charger (non-chinese) that is safe for outdoor use during the extreme weather as well? Also how do we secure them so the charger is not "used" by others when no one is around (yeah - it's a problem!!)?

Thanks!
I think the Grizzl-e is probably the most rugged charger made. It it made in Canada out of Canadian and USA made parts. Even the circuit board is made in Canada. The body is made of thick cast aluminum. There is a video of it literally being run over. They come in smart and dumb versions. It has an available lock for the charge handle. Just for the record, I do not have a Grizzl-e , I have an Autel charger. But I park in a climate controlled detached garage. If I was parking outdoors I would without doubt get Grizzl-e. The price point on Grizzl-e is good as well and customer support is awesome from everything I've heard.
 
Grizzl-e is another good, lower priced product. Depending on the rebates available to you (utility, state, etc.) cost may hardly be an issue. Otherwise buy the best one you can afford.
 
One more thought about "best". You don't necessarily need the fastest (therefore most expensive) charger available. Unless you are going to be doing 200 mile trips on back to back days where you come home near empty every night, you really won't need a super fast charger. A 40A or even 30A circuit will do just fine and have you topped up (90%) every night in less than the 8 hours you sleep.
 
Thanks JRRF!
Yeah - I was considering the breaker approach but a lock on the handle should be enough :)
One more q regarding Clipper Creek: the local Electric Utility company, PSE&G is offering a credit to offset the cost of the charger and installation. But they must be Level 2 smart charger (ie capable of sending and receiving communications via Wi-Fi or a cellular network). Would you know if this charger is wifi-enabled?

Thank you again!
It is not. Clipper Creek is great but they don’t make a “smart charger” which connects to Wi-Fi.
 
I still use the charger that came with the car. When our solar is installed I'm planning to buy the Emporia charger with the current monitor so that all excess power can be directed to the car instead of going back to the grid. I like that concept, hope it's well implemented.
 
I still use the charger that came with the car. When our solar is installed I'm planning to buy the Emporia charger with the current monitor so that all excess power can be directed to the car instead of going back to the grid. I like that concept, hope it's well implemented.
I’m not sure I understand, does it only charge when you have excess solar production?
 
Yes, it would direct excess power into the car when plugged in. It would restrict charging current to excess available only (by balancing current flowing in and out of electrical panel). This means you can charge during midday when your panels produce, without paying expensive daytime utility rates.
Of course this makes more sense when you're not using your car to commute to work.
 
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