Yeah, its hard to argue against what you are saying, its simple facts!
Highway is 300 kilometers max, but that is just the first leg when starting out with 100%, and that I will probably never do.

This summer I am going to have a try to reach 500 kilometers in one charge, but that means slow flat roads and careful driving.

 

Yeah 250 or whatever the claim is, it's not a realistic highway range. Plus if you drive a regular speed it drains range faster too.
I wouldn't say the range is quite as low as the OP but 150-160 miles (which is plenty)

Sure I could get more range by driving 55mph or charging battery to 100 percent, but sometimes I just want to use it like a regular car and not hypermile it.

 

Yeah 250 or whatever the claim is, it's not a realistic highway range. Plus if you drive a regular speed it drains range faster too.
I wouldn't say the range is quite as low as the OP but 150-160 miles (which is plenty)

Sure I could get more range by driving 55mph or charging battery to 100 percent, but sometimes I just want to use it like a regular car and not hypermile it.

The total range specified for any car’s battery, assumes using all of the battery, ie, from 0-100%.

My efficiency, over the 1,600 mile round trip I took to Chicago and back to Maryland, was 28.5 kWh. When re-charging on a trip, I always take it to 100%. No issues. Works out to be around 270 mile range. Also, most of these miles were highway miles (except when I pulled off to re-charge). I kept up with the flow of traffic, so speeds ranged between 65-70mph. Granted, this was done when temps were mild, and in the 70’s, where I didn’t have to cool/heat the cabin.

At home, I re-charge when it drops to 20% and take it to the Polestar recommended SOC of 90%. Driving at home (ie some highway, but mostly local divided or 2 lane roads), I get between 27-31 kWh, and is strongly dependent on temp and how aggressive I drive from stop light to stop light. Now, with the power bump, I’m inclined to jack rabbit off the starting line, which won’t help my efficiency. But lets say my average efficiency, at home, is about 30 kWh….and I keep my SOC between 20-90%, that works out to about 182 miles driven/range using 70% of the total battery’s capacity,

Just playing around with “hey google” on my iPad, and asked Google Assistant what the current range was on my Polestar. Google responded with this message:

“Here's what I got from Polestar: as of this morning at 3:21 AM, its battery was at 71%, giving you a range of about 186.41 mi.”

Pretty damn close to my own estimate. 👍 😎

 

I agree. In real winter conditions < - 10C and on my studded 20" I don't expect more than 200km from 90% SOC to the next charge. In summer 300km. That's my real life numbers on highway on steady 100-120 kmh. Of course I can extend that, but in real life? No.

 

I bet someone who lives near the unlimited sections of the Autobahn might only think their vehicle's range is 150 km.

 

In that case it probably is 150 km

 

Everyone’s range will be different as we are not machines and have different driving styles etc. I like that the OP has applied winter range to all seasons and not used summer range which most people do. Driving 200km with a bonus in summer is great thinking.

I’ve done 210 miles on a charge in my LRSM with starting SOC of 90% dropping to 13%, driving at a constant 70mph.

For me the range only has to be enough to get from one charger to the next within my bladder tolerances lol. I didn’t enjoy the 210miles without stopping but only did it so not to disturb the sleeping baby who would wake up as soon as car stopped. I had gotten used to driving for 2hrs and stopping for a break annd took the opportunity to charge even if it didn’t need it, the 3hrs final leg of a 13hrs drive was a bit much. I’m not as young as I used to, and I ached in places I don’t remember having lol

 

On a long run in the UK winter, I get a about 32 kW/100 miles = about 130 miles (about 200 km) with 40 kW charge
Short runs (returns starting with a cold car) about 35 kW/100 miles - so not a huge difference.
The bit of "summer" driving I got saw about 30 kW/100 miles - so not a lot of difference again.

In the UK travel speeds are lower so 130 miles is as @Icesingh puts it - it's about my "bladder tolerance" - 2.5 hours typically, so stopping for a "charge" is not that difficult?

Just a note - Many years ago, I was on an overnight train in India when I met a gentleman who remembered travelling on the flying boats from India to the USA & taking many days, they took the trip as part of the experience so maybe that is what we should adopt?

 

I'm going to have to push back here with some of my own real world experience. The ONLY way I'd get only 200kms would be if it was really cold out, heat blasting, driving purely highway at 125 to 130 and using from 90% down to 10%. In those circumstances it would likely be around 200kms. In the summer months I can easily get 400km pure highway driving 120kmh.

I'm not discounting your experience. But you even described a scenario similar to what I stated above and it's a bit misleading to state that the car has a range of 200km in your title. More accurate title would be "I've decided that my P2 has a 200km worst case scenario range ".

 

You have done this?
Just calculating this based on 100% use of battery it seems very optimistic.
Is it flat ground only? No AC?
What configuration? DM/SM?

 

I definitively love the title of this thread.

 

 

I have been getting significantly more that 200km. I am able to reliably get at 200 miles from a 90% charge in summer and seem to average around 30-33 kWh/100miles. Sometimes it has even dipped below that. During winter with winter tires I get much lower range averaging around 37-40 kWh/100miles for a range of around 180 miles from a 90% charge. One thing I have found is that the projected range when driving is very accurate.

 

Thanks for this real world, long term (2 year) analysis! Much appreciated.

 

For sure, if range (at motorway speed and in bad weather conditions) is a major concern, a PS2 4WD is not the best choice. One could even wonder whether it's a good option to go for an EV in such case.
In my case I am happy (rather very happy) to know I drive during two hours at 115 or 120 during two hours (without range stress) and then go for a charge + relaxing stop.
And, because in daily life, I do not cover huge distances, I most of the time enjoy using the available power (and grip) without putting myself any question about range.
My conclusion: the EV market will, over time, comprise more and more cars designed for those who give priority to range. It will then be a choice to make, depending on one's priorities/needs.