So it looks like today will be the day to test out how this car performs in the snow on UK roads. I’m sure our Scandinavian friends already have vast experience but this is one of those rare days it now seems. Any tips or does this car handle like a dream in these artic conditions 🤪.
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At least in the UK, they are definitely summer tyres - as far as I'm aware, Polestar only supply summer tyres or a second complete set of wheels with winter tyres on. To my mind they should have provided all season tyres as the default. Some manufacturers here have started to do that now, e.g. Peugeot/Citreon/Vauxhall.
After struggling a bit to find the right markings, I finally called our CS and confirmed they're summer tires.
The 19" nonPP stock tires are labeled "Michelin Primacy4", which as best as I can tell are an updated version of the Primacy3 tires:
Shop Michelin Primacy 3 Tires | Michelin
Michelin Primacy 3 tires deliver excellent wet and dry handling and are the best summer tire for your luxury touring vehicle. Learn more today.
www.michelinman.com
I went ahead and ordered some chains (which I will try out before leaving!) and keep those in the frunk as a kind of halfway insurance policy.
Interesting to me, the tread pattern of my tires looks identical to both the Primacy3 (which is rated as Summer) and the Primacy MXM4 (which is rated as All Season). So guessing the Summer vs All Season diff is down to the rubber composition, which Mike from our CS also suggested.
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I'm with you, Amanda. Even on dry pavement, snow tires are made with a compound that's a lot grippier in cold weather. Anything below 40 degrees Fahrenheit (4 Celsius), and you're still much better off on winter tires.
Greetings from the top of Belgium with 20 cm of snow this Sunday. I can tell you that I had a lot of fun on the snow. The car behaves extremely well with the winter kits in Nokian, even on difficult climbs as a lot of cars were skidding. I was able to pull the kids in bobsleigh (without them taking exhaust fumes in the face
). I also towed a "fossil" that was stuck in the snow without any problem (I was very amused by his amazement). What I can tell: if the car stays outside you have to protect the charging plug, otherwise, it's impossible to close it. With the snow a lot of sensors are inactive: cameras, parking assist, active headlights, which generates a lot of warnings. But in short, it was a real pleasure .
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). I also towed a "fossil" that was stuck in the snow without any problem (I was very amused by his amazement). What I can tell: if the car stays outside you have to protect the charging plug, otherwise, it's impossible to close it. With the snow a lot of sensors are inactive: cameras, parking assist, active headlights, which generates a lot of warnings. But in short, it was a real pleasure .
For Tosspot see Jackoff as a way to describe someone. Tosser is a nice abbreviation.
Generally pertaining to a fellow who relies upon his own company for entertainment. In North America the technique sounds quite aggressive. Like a Jack Hammer. Tossing conjures the image of gently scattering rose petals.
Happy to help and a Merry Christmas one and all.
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63 years old and I feel like I'm only now learning English.
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If you ever visit Pittsburgh, amongst the delicious low calorie french fry stuffed sandwiches, you'll hear people calling these types of folks "jagoffs" 🤣
I do not want to be swapping tires 2x/year. Seems like I will need to get all-season, based on what you all are saying, is that correct?After struggling a bit to find the right markings, I finally called our CS and confirmed they're summer tires.
The 19" nonPP stock tires are labeled "Michelin Primacy4", which as best as I can tell are an updated version of the Primacy3 tires:
These are stated as summer tires but good for both wet and dry conditions. The main thing I'm trying to decide is if I really shouldn't take it into a location where the temps can get to freezing, but the roads should be well plowed/salted, for a trip over a few days. I'm tempted to go for it but it seems like a risk. But also seem silly to switch out to winter tires just for that.Shop Michelin Primacy 3 Tires | Michelin
Michelin Primacy 3 tires deliver excellent wet and dry handling and are the best summer tire for your luxury touring vehicle. Learn more today.
I went ahead and ordered some chains (which I will try out before leaving!) and keep those in the frunk as a kind of halfway insurance policy.
Interesting to me, the tread pattern of my tires looks identical to both the Primacy3 (which is rated as Summer) and the Primacy MXM4 (which is rated as All Season). So guessing the Summer vs All Season diff is down to the rubber composition, which Mike from our CS also suggested.
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Where do you live? It'd be a shame not to use that summer rubber. Might be able to sell the tires. All seasons could work, but they are a bit of a compromise.
I live in northern NJ. I have 19" nonPP and Shari advises they are all season, which is fine by me.
Since I will only drive in freezing weather by choice for when I go on winter road trips, I'm sticking with the stock tires year round. My main question is what to do for those few days a year when we do venture out. Since it's not too far off, I just ordered some chains and will put those on if needed, and take it easy on the accelerator when there.
If I lived where it does get actually cold with icy roads and snow, I'd probably get a set of winter tires and switch them on/off with the seasons. All seasons are a compromise as the Prof indicates.
If you do want to get All Seasons, it seems the Michelin CrossClimate+ might be a good bet - it's an updated version of the CrossClimate (like the Primacy4 is from the Primacy3) and these guys liked it as an All Season alternative to the Primacy 3:
Michelin CrossClimate vs Primacy 3 Long Term Review - Tyre Reviews and Tests
In Spring 2015, Michelin unveiled a new breed of all season tyre, the Crossclimate, which promised to address the shortcomings of traditional all season tyres in the warmer, dryer months for ...
www.tyrereviews.com
Edit: for clarity, this whole willfully 'vacationing' in freezing temperatures is all mrs. polerad's idea. I'm perfectly happy knowing that seasons don't exist.
It’s so rarely snowy here the cost isn’t worth it for another set of tyres/wheels. One or two days a year max.
I went for a short drive in the snow/slush yesterday to deliver a birthday present to a friend and the abs kicked in a couple of times but otherwise uneventful.
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I went for a short drive in the snow/slush yesterday to deliver a birthday present to a friend and the abs kicked in a couple of times but otherwise uneventful.
I tried out these chains today:
pics of them on stock 19” Michelin Primacy4 summer tires below.
I think it should work well if we need it and putting them on and taking them off was pretty easy! and the included instruction sheet is thick and glossy in a way that you can use it to kneel on so you don’t get too dirty.
took only a few mins per tire, at least under ideal conditions. Let see what I’m saying when I’m stuck on the side of the road and the kids are screaming.
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pics of them on stock 19” Michelin Primacy4 summer tires below.
I think it should work well if we need it and putting them on and taking them off was pretty easy! and the included instruction sheet is thick and glossy in a way that you can use it to kneel on so you don’t get too dirty.
took only a few mins per tire, at least under ideal conditions. Let see what I’m saying when I’m stuck on the side of the road and the kids are screaming.
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Do those give enough clearance for the brakes and brake lines? I'd feel safer with Centrax style chains, which do not go all the way around the tires (and are even easier to mount & remove). I have a set for my XC70 that got me through Donner Pass in a heavy snowstorm a few years ago. Worth every penny.
The inner section of it is basically a tube a few mm wide that sits on the inner tire sidewall near the rim.
You can see a pic of the unwrapped thing here: https://www.peerlesschain.com/wp-content/uploads/AUTO_TRAC_Install_Instructions.pdf
so overall adds a few mm on the inner surface of the tire, well separted from the central hub.
I took pics of the inner surface of the wheel The closest part that gets close to the tire is the suspension post and that's definitely separated well further from the tire than the inner part of that chain would be. And the inner section of the wheel hub seems to have a lip that would help to keep the chain from sliding down into the central hub.
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Based just north of London (So almost no local public charging)
Had an iPace on order for delivery 24th April 2019, but as I own two restaurants and a hotel I thought it wise to cancel! Lured into a false sense of hope at the end of lockdown No. 2 so looked at a business lease of an ID.3. It seems that VW don’t want the business market so my lease broker suggested a P2. Test drove a non PP (not planning on track days and can live without gold seatbelts and valve caps! 😳) from the Westfield Space in Shepherds Bush (Tip: book a test drive from your home if you want to know what the car is like above 20 MPH! 😂) and was very impressed. Placed the order the same day and have a delivery date of 30/1/21 (Maybe!) BTW: The pleasant kid who showed me around the car promised that the app with the phone key would be available by the time I got delivery. Arh - the touching optimism of youth! TBH I must be bonkers as there is no prospect of making a living from hospitality in the UK for the foreseeable future - Hey Ho!
Previously owned a Lotus Elise Supercharged and an Alfa Romeo 4C and even so, I was still impressed with the instant acceleration of the P2 (Once I escaped London!). I also had a Volvo XC90 T8 with Polestar (👍) tuning, so I’m very familiar with the inherited features such as Pilot Assist (BTW: Certain threads seem to indicate that some owners expect to be able to have a kip on the back seats while bombing down a country lane. This is not the case - do not attempt this! 🤪) Pilot Assist relies on being able to “see” the white lines and we can’t afford to repaint them in the UK, so only use it where they are visible.
I specified my P2 in Snow. Does this mean I don’t need the winter tyres that are being discussed in the “Let it snow” thread? 🤣 Mind you, as some members from Southern England have noted, we don’t get a lot of snow here. Maybe I should have ordered it in Thunder?! I considered Midnight, but I will probably need the car at other times of the day too. Same goes for Moon! 😂😂
Our other car is an e-Golf, so a useable range adequate for a trip to the corner newsagent! My daily commute is unlikely to exceed 150 miles and I have a tethered 7Kw charger on the drive, so I will recharge overnight. I am not prepared to drive like an old lady to extend range. The wife will charge the Golf during the day as we have solar PV. I vowed I would never go all electric with cars as the UK public charging infrastructure is shockingly inadequate. Looks like if I want to go away for a few days I will need to plan a military style operation like the rest of you. I have always avoided motorway services like the plaque (I haven’t reached the incontinent stage of life yet and have always managed to avoid confusing McDonalds/KFC with food and Starbucks/Costa with coffe!) and there is no such thing as destination charging, so I might just hire an ICE car for road trips.
Anyway, thanks to the Forum for some really helpful information for this new experience. I will now crawl back under my bed for the next three months to avoid the danger of enjoying anything as per Government guidelines! 😡
Happy New Year everyone (Look on the bright side - it can only be better than last year!) Stay safe! 😷
Based just north of London (So almost no local public charging)
Had an iPace on order for delivery 24th April 2019, but as I own two restaurants and a hotel I thought it wise to cancel! Lured into a false sense of hope at the end of lockdown No. 2 so looked at a business lease of an ID.3. It seems that VW don’t want the business market so my lease broker suggested a P2. Test drove a non PP (not planning on track days and can live without gold seatbelts and valve caps! 😳) from the Westfield Space in Shepherds Bush (Tip: book a test drive from your home if you want to know what the car is like above 20 MPH! 😂) and was very impressed. Placed the order the same day and have a delivery date of 30/1/21 (Maybe!) BTW: The pleasant kid who showed me around the car promised that the app with the phone key would be available by the time I got delivery. Arh - the touching optimism of youth! TBH I must be bonkers as there is no prospect of making a living from hospitality in the UK for the foreseeable future - Hey Ho!
Previously owned a Lotus Elise Supercharged and an Alfa Romeo 4C and even so, I was still impressed with the instant acceleration of the P2 (Once I escaped London!). I also had a Volvo XC90 T8 with Polestar (👍) tuning, so I’m very familiar with the inherited features such as Pilot Assist (BTW: Certain threads seem to indicate that some owners expect to be able to have a kip on the back seats while bombing down a country lane. This is not the case - do not attempt this! 🤪) Pilot Assist relies on being able to “see” the white lines and we can’t afford to repaint them in the UK, so only use it where they are visible.
I specified my P2 in Snow. Does this mean I don’t need the winter tyres that are being discussed in the “Let it snow” thread? 🤣 Mind you, as some members from Southern England have noted, we don’t get a lot of snow here. Maybe I should have ordered it in Thunder?! I considered Midnight, but I will probably need the car at other times of the day too. Same goes for Moon! 😂😂
Our other car is an e-Golf, so a useable range adequate for a trip to the corner newsagent! My daily commute is unlikely to exceed 150 miles and I have a tethered 7Kw charger on the drive, so I will recharge overnight. I am not prepared to drive like an old lady to extend range. The wife will charge the Golf during the day as we have solar PV. I vowed I would never go all electric with cars as the UK public charging infrastructure is shockingly inadequate. Looks like if I want to go away for a few days I will need to plan a military style operation like the rest of you. I have always avoided motorway services like the plaque (I haven’t reached the incontinent stage of life yet and have always managed to avoid confusing McDonalds/KFC with food and Starbucks/Costa with coffe!) and there is no such thing as destination charging, so I might just hire an ICE car for road trips.
Anyway, thanks to the Forum for some really helpful information for this new experience. I will now crawl back under my bed for the next three months to avoid the danger of enjoying anything as per Government guidelines! 😡
Happy New Year everyone (Look on the bright side - it can only be better than last year!) Stay safe! 😷
I think you covered everything & more there!
Those test drives are killers. My car was already on order when I test drove but I became an intolerable prat afterwards.
Enjoy the forum Mr Bennett!
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