Today I saw a Rivian SUV and it's huge. I thought the price is in line with the P3 but it's twice the size.
P3 vs Rivian R1S
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Today I saw a Rivian SUV and it's huge. I thought the price is in line with the P3 but it's twice the size.
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We have had a deposit on an R1S for quite a while now - long enough to get the original pricing honored. Same config would be substantially more expensive today - by about $20k! I hope they continue to honor the original price. Heck, if my wife decides she doesn't like it we can probably unload it for a profit. Why a big SUV? Because she likes them AND she often uses the 7 seat capacity (her side of the family is quite large in number). She'll never offroad it so we didn't add any of those features. Hopefully we'll get a delivery date in the not-so-distant future.
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We live in a big country. Europeans can’t seem to wrap their heads around just how much space is over here. Especially the Midwest and west coast. Need to carry food for days in case the car breaks down so we don’t eat each other.
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For the same reason we need kitchens and bathrooms so much bigger than the rest of the world. We've told ourselves we need bigger so we believe we do.
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I bring more stuff than we need for trips in my P2 😆
Our trip from Detroit to Ft Myers in March in the Hummer, I brought a dometic fridge/freezer and loaded up the freezer with snow so I could throw snowballs at my dad. He was not impressed by that activity, but did think it was funny.
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190cm, 130kg and I'm not the biggest guy around in my friends/family. 14 year old grandson is 175cm and 95kg and rides in the back seat...a bit squeezed. And he's still growing. Just sayin...the P2 is fine for me and my driving, and my wife along on some drives. But the R1S will work much better with a crowd of big folks. I also have 700 m2 climate controlled floor space at home. Do we need it? No. But is it nice to have? Yes. So I guess it really comes down to preference, what is practical, and what it costs. If I lived in Tokyo, Manhattan, London, São Paulo, etc. then what I have here would not be practical or affordable (or neither). So again, it's all relative. I think @gray52452 has a good point: we have a lot of space so we tend to spread out and use it.
To this point I don’t think it’s just Americans who up size when they can to fill the space they’re in. Plenty of immigrants to the US in larger-than-necessary SUVs, and expats abroad driving small hatches.
likewise I’ve been across the pond a few times this year and saw plenty of Chelsea tractors on the road, no less than I see here.
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My brother is a big guy but it’s his height, 6’6”, much more so than weight that causes him to need a truck (Ford F150) because the seating position and associated increased legroom. I don’t think he would be at all comfortably in a P2.
When I took my last pre-pandemic extended European vacation I was also surprised to see how heavy/large many Germans were. Younger folks were not heavy but older folks were definitely not svelte; it reminded me of what I see in many places in America where folks see large Americans. The difference being I did not see many of those Germans driving big American sized cars.
When I took my last pre-pandemic extended European vacation I was also surprised to see how heavy/large many Germans were. Younger folks were not heavy but older folks were definitely not svelte; it reminded me of what I see in many places in America where folks see large Americans. The difference being I did not see many of those Germans driving big American sized cars.
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Swung by Rivian HQ today
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What a boring uninspiring design. Like how a 3 year old would draw an SUV. Or the old classic where they put a hard top on the back of a pick up truck and say now you've got an SUV...
Nope, definitely not for me...Way to unsophisticated.
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Agreed. That's what I thought when I saw one on the road the other day. Not particularly attractive. Just the big box.
like a Range Rover?
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Depending on the model, some of the RRs look equally ugly.
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Although I'm not crazy about the design, I applaud the focus on function and usability. It's fine and looks as expensive as it is imo.
Either way, I'm happy it exists. It'll surely push the competitors appropriately.
Either way, I'm happy it exists. It'll surely push the competitors appropriately.
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Depends which one, but no not really. Doesn't even come close, not even to the LWB versions...Looks so cheap and utilitarian...
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That's why they look that bad.
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That's the effect of designing and largely building the R1T and R1S on the same chassis. The rear enclosure looks like a slide-in module on a pickup truck. Nothing fancy, but if it gets prices back down at some point I'm all for it.
Except they're not. The R1S is actually a good bit smaller than the R1T, and they don't even share sheetmetal aft of the a-pillar. they have completely different doors. I'd actually prefer it if they had used the design of the rear doors from the R1T on the R1S.
Overall length and (Wheelbase) in inches:
R1T: 217.1 (135.8)
R1S: 200.8 (121.1)
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Yes, the R1S has a shorter wheelbase, but I believe they are identical forward of the B pillar.
What’s the Difference Between a Rivian R1S and a Rivian R1T?
One’s a truck and one’s an SUV, but both the differences and similarities go deeper than that.
The motors, suspension, front-end, electronics and more are the same between the two - that was the reason why they were able to get the R1S in production before R1T production has even scaled, they are far more similar than different. Now the silver metal banding at the top of the R1S doesn't exist on the R1T, but that's entirely aesthetic and simply a way to differentiate the two from the front and a hack, if you will, to address the side slab of the R1S.
I dig the blocky look, I just wish they did something different on the front-end styling instead of the tall, thin, oval LED's as signature DRL. Looks to me a lot like an electric Land Rover Defender, and that's a good thing (except for the Defender's near-upright front windscreen).
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