Polestar Forum banner
Cancel
Create thread New Garage Forums

Any news on MY26?

1 reading
Jump to Latest
61 - 80 of 87 Posts
#61 ·
nbvolks said:
US Polestar 4 deliveries will begin in November, but that will be a 2026 model. So they'll have two models available, but one will be a 2025 and the other a 2026. 🤣
Click to expand...
I really wish they would enable us to sign lease paperwork on the 4 to get the tax credit before Sept 30… the website only lets you order for cash payment.
 
#62 ·
Jupiter7 said:
I really wish they would enable us to sign lease paperwork on the 4 to get the tax credit before Sept 30… the website only lets you order for cash payment.
Click to expand...
To be honest, I'll believe that they're going to deliver any P4s when I see them at a dealer.

I don't even know that they've built any of them yet or of the South Korean plant is operational, or if the current tariff situation with SK makes sense for them to import them even if the plant is operational.

So I won't be shocked if come mid-October, Polestar announces another delay to the P4 deliveries.
 
#63 ·
Haulr said:
JCDDOME said:
Thermal dynamics are improved with lower currents that create less heat for same and higher output which requires less battery management and increased efficiency (reduced heat leads to less energy loss during charging and discharging among several efficiency benefits)….doesnt change motor output for HP/Torque.
Click to expand...
nope. not higher output, because for motors it appears that current is what matters. so if you double the voltage, you halve the current. therefore, forget ohms law, because it's the magnetic field that matters. half the current gives half the magnetic field. so you would need to double the number of wraps in the motor to equal the same magnetic field with twice the voltage (for example).

at least that's how I understand it.
Click to expand...
I should’ve stated more available battery to drive the motors since less battery management overhead is required (lower thermal temps to charge and under load, etc)
 
#65 ·
JCDDOME said:
I should’ve stated more available battery to drive the motors since less battery management overhead is required (lower thermal temps to charge and under load, etc)
Click to expand...
I suppose - but it's marginal. still, I get it. higher voltage is generally a good thing, ohm's law and all. But there are a few niggles with the new car.
  • The number of cells have changed - which means "fewer cells". the ES90 has 5kWh less than our 400V cars at 102 kWh usable. so not "more available battery" in actual fact. lol
  • torque and efficiency of the motor have not improved. which is really interesting. perhaps they had an engineering target that they hit with our 400V cars and simply stayed put at with 800V.
    • horsepower is higher, which simply means it can spin faster, and the inverter + motor assembly is lighter. So here we have one genuine improvement. it does indeed run both faster and cooler.
  • charging is ostensibly faster - with a 350kW peak. However, this won't be at a Tesla supercharger!
and so here is the crux: If you plug the new 800V car into a 400V, 250kW Tesla supercharger - what does the charging curve look like?
  • apparently the car has an onboard DC to DC converter to boost the voltage from 400V to 800V. I was hoping they had split pack solution. but nope.
Curiously, I have been unable to find anybody who has actually road tested a Volvo ES90. So I guess until somebody actually records a 400V charging curve for the new architecture we just don't know how it will do. On a supercharger, it might charge faster than our current cars, or maybe not. I guess we just don't know yet.
 
#66 ·
nbvolks said:
US Polestar 4 deliveries will begin in November, but that will be a 2026 model. So they'll have two models available, but one will be a 2025 and the other a 2026. 🤣
Click to expand...
it occurs to me that there is yet another gag here:
  • the 2024, 2025 cars could benefit from a NACS port - at least to make it handier to access Superchargers - but we get the CCS1 port.
  • the 2026, 2027 cars could benefit from a CCS1 port - for easier access to 800V charging infrastructure - but we get the NACS port.
I know it will change with time, plusses and minuses to both, but still. it's essentially ass backwards. love how we operate here in the USA.
 
Discussion starter · #68 ·
Haulr said:
it occurs to me that there is yet another gag here:
  • the 2024, 2025 cars could benefit from a NACS port - at least to make it handier to access Superchargers - but we get the CCS1 port.
  • the 2026, 2027 cars could benefit from a CCS1 port - for easier access to 800V charging infrastructure - but we get the NACS port.
I know it will change with time, plusses and minuses to both, but still. it's essentially ass backwards. love how we operate here in the USA.
Click to expand...
Tesla is (slowly) expanding the v4 SCs - which can accommodate 800v - in the NA region, but this is likely a 5-year+ journey. Your point is still valid for the here and now, and this is partly why I grabbed a MY25 last week.
 
#73 ·
adkdqdjd10d said:
In US there are V4 dispensers but power cabinets are still V3 (250+ kW). Still waiting for Tesla to install V4 power cabinets (up to 500kW). So for now consider them V3.5 or V3+ if the SC dispensers are V4.
Click to expand...
That used to be true, not anymore… they have plenty of v4 installs that have been upgraded to 325kW, which means they’ve got new cabinets and are 800v capable. I’ve used a few, with no issues, with my Polestar and A2Z adapter. Elmira, NY for example…

insideevs.com

Tesla’s V4 Superchargers Boosted To 325 kW In North America

The latest-generation DC fast chargers can now provide up to 30% more power to EVs. In other words, shorter charging stops.
insideevs.com insideevs.com
 
#77 ·
chaztizer said:
Wonder if this is something that might be released OTA for a price, but I’m guessing it will be linked to the 800V changes.
Click to expand...
Probably. A lot of stuff (not all) in the drivetrain scale to amperage, so effectively halving those requirements by doubling the voltage will leave room for a lot more peak horse power. Increased efficiency and thermal management will also increase max steady state performance.
 
#79 ·
#80 ·
PoleFly said:
I hate to be negative Nancy as I LOVE the P3 and was waiting to hear about 2026 updates but recently the only info I keep coming across is IF Polestar will even exist next year!o_O

Polestar’s Going Concern

The Street report on Polestar
Click to expand...
A primary indicator of financial distress is the relationship between current assets (cash and other assets expected to be converted to cash within a year) and current liabilities (debts due within a year). The report suggests current liabilities of $2.988 billion. This means Polestar’s short-term obligations due within the next year are nearly $3 billion more than its available short-term assets, creating a significant funding gap.

Does anyone see a path towards alleviating this? Li Fishu ante'd up 200M a while back. But 3B - seems like a pretty steep hill to climb.
 
61 - 80 of 87 Posts
About this Discussion
86 Replies
25 Participants
Last post:
HotIce
Polestar Forum
posts
323K
members
24K
Since
2019
Polestar community and owner's club - join the conversation about range, charging, maintenance, issues and more!
Full Forum Listing
Explore Our Forums
Polestar 2 Forum Polestar 3 Forum Polestar 4 Forum UK Australia & New Zealand